Fate is definitely overrated! People rely on it for everything. There is a clear example in Oedipus. The Thebans believe so much in fate and what the gods have predicted and prophecies that they spend their lives trying to go against it. If you just live you life and do whatever you want to do when you want than at the end of the day you will feel fufilled. People grow from bad experiences so if they avoid them because they already know what they are suppose to do in life, they will never grow. I guess i'm pretty biast about this because i don't even believe in fate. Ok so my ultimate favorite movie is (500) days of summer and in it there is the best quote about fate: "Coincidence. That's all anything really is, nothing more than coincidence. There are no miracles, there's no such this as fate, and nothing is meant to be..." (ok so i know it doesn't have to do with the fact that it's overrated or not but it's awsome!)
I kind of agree with Natasha. Fate is somewhat overrated: if you know what is going to or is supposed to happen, life is not worth living. Jawaharlal Nehru, first prime minister of India said: "Life is like a game of cards. The hand you are dealt is determinism; the way you play it is free will." This pretty much just means, even though certain things happen without our control, they way we deal with and react to them is our choice and THAT is what allows us to determine how our life unfolds before us.
you're right, Chloe! And that's why we fault Oedipus. Inside of that, he made some pretty poor choices. Natasha, you sound like Jocasta when she said: chance governs human lives :)
I agree with Natasha and Chloe, fate is definitely overrated. In the play they regard it as something so ABSOLUTE, especially with the prophecies. As if once your fate is told there is no other option or possibility in life. One example is Jocasta and Laius' reaction after they hear the prophecy for Oedipus. Their total faith in the inevitability of the prophecy leads them to make a poor choice (leaving their son on the mountain to die) which eventually leads to their downfall. Maybe if they had less faith in fate (haha) the whole tragedy could have been avoided.
Maybe it's not fate that is overrated in the book, but the desire to know one's fate. Because whether fate exists or not, I don't think it was fate that governed Oedipus' life but the discovery of his fate and furthermore his meddling with it.
Here's the thing , I have never been told my fate - so I supposedly live with free will , supposedly , i am free to make choices , to act and react as I see fit . And that is all that matters - that WE believe there is no fate . Not believing in it could just be another part of some fate that sits in a dusty volume in the bowels of a dark tower , foretold by a slew of gods . BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER YO ! As long as we live with illusion of free-will , and don't know our fate , we're good . :"
Fate is definitely overrated! People rely on it for everything. There is a clear example in Oedipus. The Thebans believe so much in fate and what the gods have predicted and prophecies that they spend their lives trying to go against it. If you just live you life and do whatever you want to do when you want than at the end of the day you will feel fufilled. People grow from bad experiences so if they avoid them because they already know what they are suppose to do in life, they will never grow. I guess i'm pretty biast about this because i don't even believe in fate.
ReplyDeleteOk so my ultimate favorite movie is (500) days of summer and in it there is the best quote about fate: "Coincidence. That's all anything really is, nothing more than coincidence. There are no miracles, there's no such this as fate, and nothing is meant to be..." (ok so i know it doesn't have to do with the fact that it's overrated or not but it's awsome!)
I kind of agree with Natasha. Fate is somewhat overrated: if you know what is going to or is supposed to happen, life is not worth living. Jawaharlal Nehru, first prime minister of India said: "Life is like a game of cards. The hand you are dealt is determinism; the way you play it is free will." This pretty much just means, even though certain things happen without our control, they way we deal with and react to them is our choice and THAT is what allows us to determine how our life unfolds before us.
ReplyDeleteyou're right, Chloe! And that's why we fault Oedipus. Inside of that, he made some pretty poor choices. Natasha, you sound like Jocasta when she said: chance governs human lives :)
ReplyDeleteI agree with Natasha and Chloe, fate is definitely overrated. In the play they regard it as something so ABSOLUTE, especially with the prophecies. As if once your fate is told there is no other option or possibility in life. One example is Jocasta and Laius' reaction after they hear the prophecy for Oedipus. Their total faith in the inevitability of the prophecy leads them to make a poor choice (leaving their son on the mountain to die) which eventually leads to their downfall. Maybe if they had less faith in fate (haha) the whole tragedy could have been avoided.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's not fate that is overrated in the book, but the desire to know one's fate. Because whether fate exists or not, I don't think it was fate that governed Oedipus' life but the discovery of his fate and furthermore his meddling with it.
ReplyDeleteHere's the thing , I have never been told my fate - so I supposedly live with free will , supposedly , i am free to make choices , to act and react as I see fit . And that is all that matters - that WE believe there is no fate . Not believing in it could just be another part of some fate that sits in a dusty volume in the bowels of a dark tower , foretold by a slew of gods . BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER YO ! As long as we live with illusion of free-will , and don't know our fate , we're good . :"
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